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Thread: HDTV 1080i problems |
    
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| Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 09:03 am: |
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I bought a SVA 42" HD4208T111-PDP, connected it to Comcast Motorola DCT5100 HDTV box. heres what I got, on the PC/ DTV RGB serial connection i recieave 480p signal but TV can't pull in or find 1080i nor 480i signal, when connected to component by rca plug get split screen all in red again tv cant find 1080i or 480i signal only 780p and 480p, but when connecting with S-video I get 1080i signal with overide 480i picture looks fantastic, problem is picture in HD format postage stamp size, picture in non-hd format 20" portable tv size. I have spent three weeks tring to get my HDTV to work with my HDTV Cable box, along with three visits from Comcast also,
could someone help me get this set working at HD 1080i or tell me that these two systems the TV and The DCT5100 aren't compatable ?
Comcast blames Motorola DCT5100, SVA blames Comcast for weak signal, Motorola says try DCT6200. plese email me any help thank you very much. |
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New member Username: Sherrilll
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 03:22 pm: |
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If you go to the menu on the DCT5100 you can select the different size resolution 1080i etc. The problem is the different interfaces on the 5100 will not work with different resolutions. To view 1080i you need to view through the Component Video port fo the DVI port. |
serpentwyne Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 05:00 pm: |
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Sherrill thank you but I finally got the right answer From SVA.
the new SVA TV has a 15-pin analog RGB connection. The only way you are going to get HD is by setting your box to 720P and using the hybrid cable that comes with the plasma. Otherwise you would need to get a HD box that has a 15pin connection in the back of the unit. To do 1080i you will need a 15pin RBG connection on the HD box.
Hope someone can make sure this info gets to all HDTV owners that may be having this problem with the new TVs |
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| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 01:19 pm: |
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=hdtv+pci+card
That link is a google search. There's lots of good HDTV Pci cards out. Read up, u'll answer questions about decoding.
If you look into such a card, you'll need a big computer.
p4 class processor - a tun of ram - and winXP |
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| Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 04:09 pm: |
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Citizens of Hi-Def T.V. I stand before you !!!
My relatives purchased a 58-in. Hitachi Hi-Def "Ready" T.V. The problem is their cable provider doesn't broadcast in Hi-Def. Is there a product - similiar to a cable box - they can purchase that will transfer their current cable analog signal into a cable digital signal without having to go to Direct or Dish Satelites...Take me away from this Madness... |
New member Username: Jdsaenz1
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 04:03 pm: |
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Perhaps their cable provider offers a 'digital' package of channels; most (I think) cable companies, like Time-Warner, provide the digital cable box to view these channels on your relatives' HD ready set. The cable company may even have an HD digital box for their TV set so that they can view the few HD channels provided. |
donaldkeyes Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 08:58 am: |
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I cannot get a picture through the DVI cable port between my TV (I have a Samsung 50" DLP HD TV) and a Motorola DCT620 cable box from Comcast. Does anyone know what is wrong? The menu on the TV shows the DVI cable is connected. Are there necessary settings to make on the cable box which will make the DVI cable active? |
Silver Member Username: John_s
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| Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 09:20 am: |
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dk:
It is entirely possible that the cable box's DVI output is not operational. That is certainly true with my cable company's HD box. The DVI output port is there, all nice and pretty, but the necessary electronics to make it work is not inside the box. This is no doubt because they decided to save some (maybe a lot of) money by not buying their (Scientific Atlanta 3250HD) boxes with active DVI outputs.
This may also be true in your case. |
John C. Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 03:34 pm: |
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What about problems with the sound and picture being out of sync on Samsung DLP HDTV's. I had this problem with two different 46" sets. Has anyone else seen this problem? |
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| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 12:11 am: |
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I have a new Samsung HLN507 and I also have the same problem with the sound and picture being out of sync. Have you been able to solve this problem and How? |
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| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 11:14 pm: |
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Have talked with Time Warner on the DVI port and it is correct that it is not available. Does anyone know when TW is talking about turning up this port? What do you think about switching to Voom?
Frank |
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| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 11:16 pm: |
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Have talked with Time Warner on the DVI port and it is correct that it is not available. Does anyone know when TW is talking about turning up this port? What do you think about switching to Voom?
Frank |
Bronze Member Username: Jdsaenz1
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| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 09:19 am: |
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I was about to go with Voom, except I just learned you need a home phone for menu access and such. (we're using our cells for everything). Anyway, Voom's deal sounds pretty good; it ends Friday, July 30! As far as I can tell, Voom is the only source for the largest selection of HD programming.
and no, I'm not 'officially' with Wendy's, I mean Voom. |
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| Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 02:07 pm: |
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I have Voom and no you don't need to connect it to your phone line (although it says that it requires it but then again, same as any other SAT companies). The installer left without connecting to the phone line and it works fine. |
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| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 10:31 pm: |
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Voom does have the largest HD selection out there but what happens if something goes wrong with the box or wiring? |
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| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 09:47 am: |
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Since spring of this year, Voom has added the rental program to its offering. You don't have to pay any installation fee. Only for about $10 a month per box rental. Voom would be responsible for anything happens to the box. And according to Voom, when its DVR comes out, you can exchange it if you want (I don't know what the DVR rental fee would be). |
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| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 04:45 pm: |
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Hi all, I have a Sony VPL-HS20 front projector in my living room, it functions fine with dvd's, standard def cable, VCR etc. But I got my HD digital cable box installed the other day and have noticed something odd happens when I have the cable box set to 1080i, (the first time HD has been run through the projector) my projector will run the gorgeous HD picture and sound perfectly for a while, then it will switch itself to the Memory Stick Mode, without my prompting. I tried pulling the batteries out od the remote, wondering if it was triggering the switch, but this didn't help. It seems that if I have the cable box set to 720p, then this doesn't happen anymore (so far). Anyone have or heard of this problem before?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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| Posted on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 09:08 pm: |
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i just recently got hdtv, the samsung ts-360 and i have a panasonic 47" widescreen everytime i turn on dish it has a slight line down the left center of the screen, but when i turn on dvd player the line gos away. i dont know what to do i had the tv checked its fine , the reciever is fine ,and the components are fine. please help. |
Brad Wease Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 11:22 pm: |
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I recently purchased a Samsung DLP 56 inch and it is connected to a Motorola HD box provided by Charter. The cable guy told me it would be a waste of money to connect DVI from the cable box. Is he correct? Also, I am experiencing the same problem with the sound and picture being out of sync. Any answers to this problem |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 03:18 pm: |
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" recently purchased a Samsung DLP 56 inch and it is connected to a Motorola HD box provided by Charter. The cable guy told me it would be a waste of money to connect DVI from the cable box. Is he correct? Also, I am experiencing the same problem with the sound and picture being out of sync. Any answers to this problem"
If you connect through DVI your sync problems will disappear. Naturally this assumes that the cable company has downloaded firmware version 7.15 to your Motorola STB. If you have version 7.07 or lower DVI will not work, if you have version 7.10 it will work but will develope the infamous HDCP handshake problem which is corrected by 7.15.
If you do not know which firmware version they are using I can explain how you can find out yourself before you go to the expense of purchasing a DVI cable.
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Brad Wease Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 07:59 pm: |
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I thank you for the information on what firmware version of the Motorola box I have. I have no idea which version I have and am not sure the "cable guy" knows. Please let me know how I can determine which version I have. |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 02:50 pm: |
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Instructions for checking firmware:
Turn off STB
Within 2 seconds-Depress "select" key
A new screen will appear
Scroll down to the "interactive status" selection d09
In this menu will be the firmware version- ie: 7.07 7.10 7.15
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| Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 02:42 pm: |
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I recently purchased Philips 42FD9954 plasma. I am trying to connect it to DISH Network's 811 HD Receiver using the DVI-D input. The receiver is set to 1080i output for HD. The pictures flickers every few minutes. If I change the setup on receiver to 760P or 480P, everything works fine. I called Philips tech service and they are saying that to get 1060i input I have to get the input through component cable instead of DVI-D. This does not sound logical to me. What should i do to get 1060i input using DVI-D port? |
Silver Member Username: John_s
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| Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 09:26 am: |
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Agog07:
Since there doesn't seem to be any bona fide TV engineers on this forum many readers of your question are reluctant to attempt an answer, including me. After all, this new video technology is just as new to everybody else as it is to you.
I know that sending a pure digital signal, via the DVI, into a TV should theoretically yield the best possible picture. This is because the DVI cable bypasses the necessary digital to analog and analog to digital conversions necessary on component lines.
But it just could be that your dogged insistance on using the 1080i output from your receiver may be misguided. Since the native resolution (defined here as the actual horizontal and vertical pixel count on a fixed-pixel TV) on your Philips is only 1024 X 1024, you are seriously short of the 1920 X 1080 native resolution required for full resolution in the 1080i HD format. There are 1920 X 1080 displays on the market, but they cost 3 or 4 times more than yours. And let me add that the vast majority of fixed-pixel HDTVs discussed on this forum fall short of the 1080i ideal, my own included.
My point is that, since your native resolution absolutely precludes realizing full 1080i resolution, why not use 720p instead? Your display is much better suited to display the max resolution of 720p, which is 1080 X 720. You are a bit short on the horizontal count (1080), but you've got the vertical covered (720). Plus with its progressive scan, 720p will have fewer motion artifacts than the interlaced 1080i. This is because progressive scans full frames twice as fast as interlace scan does. (Computer monitors have been non-interlaced for many years now.)
Moreover, any fixed pixel TV with less than ideal pixel count must interpolate, or scale, the incoming picture signal to fit that particular TV's native resolution. Unfortunately, not all scalers are equal, so yours may be better at scaling down to 720 rather than trying to scale an incoming (digital DVI) 1080i signal. So the Philips tech may just be right.
You didn't specify, but I'm betting that there was very little difference in picture quality between the 1080i and 720p settings on your DISH receiver. If so, why not use 720p and be happy?
Anybody else care to weigh in here?
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Silver Member Username: John_s
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Post Number: 193
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| Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 07:49 am: |
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Correction:
Sorry, the 720p maximum native resolution requirement is 1280 X 720, not 1080 X 720 stated in my above post. This means that Agog is further away from the 720p horizontal ideal, of course, but his display is still closer than to the 1080i ideal. So this doesn't change my conclusion. |
aumdb487 Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 02:44 pm: |
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I'm having problem with my Motorola DCT620 I can't get the close caption to turn off. Does anyone have any advice? |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:11 am: |
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"I'm having problem with my Motorola DCT620 I can't get the close caption to turn off. Does anyone have any advice?"
Using the remote turn of the Motorola STB, wait a few seconds then press the display button. A menu will pop up and you can scroll down using the arrow buttons on the remote to the CC label then toggle CC from on to off.
xvxvxvx |
Joshua H Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 04:31 pm: |
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Just wanted to say Thanks to xvxvxvx, I had some how locked my widescreen into 4:3 mode, and this thread helped me.
so, thanks |
Joshua H Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 04:55 pm: |
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New problem; When I hook the DVI from my Motorola DCT620 to my JVC i'ART I get a picture from my cable box when I power it (Motorola DCT620) up, but then It goes to black after about 7 seconds. Now within my moment of view, the color seems to be a bit on the red side.
Any clue as to why? |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, October 18, 2004 - 06:54 pm: |
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Your JVC and your Moto STB may likely be having a "handshake" problem. Please tell me the exact model number of your JVC display and if you know which firmware version your STB is running. To check the firmware version do the following:
Using the remote turn of the Motorola STB, do not wait more than 2 seconds but quickly press the display button. A menu will pop up and you can scroll down using the arrow buttons on the remote to the "INTERFACE" item. Use the left or right arrow and you will access the item. It will say firmware version 7.xx if the xx is not .15 let me know because version 7.15 fixed the HDCP handskake issue.
The above menu has lots of interesting data about what is occurring in your STB. Do not be afraid to explore in this menu since none of these items are accessable by the end-user (that would be you).
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New member Username: The_know_it_all
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| Posted on Monday, October 18, 2004 - 08:35 pm: |
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Hey, tomorrow the direc tv guy comes to install my HD box to my 55 inch Mitsubishi Silver series and I need the best installation possible. My tv has two HD 480 1080 component input slots and one DTV YPbPr OR RGB plus H&V input, Which is best? |
New member Username: The_know_it_all
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| Posted on Monday, October 18, 2004 - 08:41 pm: |
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I forgot to mention it's gonna be a Samsung model. I also need to know if it would be best to change my computer S-Cord from my new video card, right now i have it in the VCR S-Cord slot. Should I run it into the back of the HD box as and S-Cord input then to the empty component slot I'm already using one of them for my DVD but one is still open. Thanks MR.Engineer. |
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| Posted on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 09:57 pm: |
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I need some help. I have a Toshiba Widescreen 30" with HDMI connection 30hf84 i believe. I have Comcast HD and a motorola DCT5100.
Its hooked DVI to HDMI cable. When watching HD it works great, when watching the analog channels it works great... but when it is switched to a regular Digital Channel, it works fine for a minute or 2 then goes to snow.
Comcast guy thought it was the box, so we swapped the box out once already. Any ideas or suggestions.
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SNG 326 Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 12:06 pm: |
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Just bought a Samsung LTP326 LCD HDTV. Comcast brought out their HD box and used component cables, and everything was OK.I installed DVI cable. When the TV is first turned on, and set to a HD station, a bar appears down the middle, with basically the same picture on either side. Can change channels, even to another HD channel, and bar goes away. Can then return to original station and its OK until TV turned off and on again. Anyone else had this problem? Any solution? |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:14 pm: |
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Anyone else had this problem?
Yes. It is the HDCP handshake between the STB and your display.
Any solution?
Yes by turning on your TV first you will avoid this symptom. IT is a known occurrance with the Motorola STB's. Soon Comcast will send an update to your firmware in the STB and the problem will be fixed. Until then either soulution will work fine.
xvxvxvx
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New member Username: Vod1
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| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 01:14 am: |
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I have a RCA Scenium HDTV. I recently purchased a DISH receiver. I cannot get my Scenium HDTV to diplay 720p from my DISH receiver. It will display 480p and 1080i from the DISH receiver. When I switch the DISH receiver to 720p my Scenium HDTV goes black and says 'unusable signal.' How do I get my Scenium HDTV to display 720p?? The Scenium HDTV will display 720p for my off-air antenna programming only. |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 04:02 pm: |
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How do I get my Scenium HDTV to display 720p??
If it is last years DLP model you cannot. RCA (Thompson) used their old CRT processing circuitry for their initial foray into DLP which only displayed 1080i not 720P in the HD domain.
The Scenium HDTV will display 720p for my off-air antenna programming only.
This is correct and the only way to display 720p on the prior years displays.
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New member Username: Vod1
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| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 06:55 pm: |
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I just want to say "Thanks" to XVXVXVX for your your help and quick response. I thought I had researched the RCA Scenium enough before buying it. I thought it could do it all. Apparently it cannot. The saleman wasnt much help. I wish I had found this site before making my HDTV purchase! |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 01:03 pm: |
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dom956,
You are welcome. I just thought I would mention that the current years RCA DLP models will both accept and display a 720p digital input signal. I also own an RCA DLP from the 2004 production run (the 61" model) and I do not see any appreciable difference from an OTA 720p signal and thru my STB on the same channel but using the 1080i output. You should not let this factor diminish your viewing pleasure.
xvxvxvx
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| Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 12:04 am: |
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i have a hitachi 42"edt41 plasma tv. i have comcast cable with an motorola hdtv receiver w/7.15. comcast installer used component cables for hd hookup. later i got a dvi-d cable to try out. as soon as i installed this cable and compared the two inputs i noticed the hd channels were not "locked in" to FULL mode any longer. (they automatically default to full mode for hd signals)
i figured this unwelcome change would go away after removing dvi-d cable, but alas it didn't. does anyone know what i'm talking about? |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 11:02 am: |
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Keep in mind that not all shows transmitted on an HD channel are always transmitted in Hi-Def. It could be that you just caught a show or two being broadcast in SD. Try something on HD1, HD2, HDNET or Discovery HD which always braodcast in HD to be sure.
Also keep in mind that you do have an EDTV not an HDTV so your display still downconverts 720p or 1080i down to 480p.
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madbird Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 10:52 pm: |
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thanks for response. for anyone interested: the motorola6200 cable box "real" menu can be accessed by turning the cable box off and leaving tv on, then press menu button. this might be old news to some but i can tell you it's more than the cable company knows.
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New member Username: Vod1
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| Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 02:04 pm: |
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I have a question for xvxvxvx. You said that you also own a RCA DLP Scenium. Mine is the HDLP50W151 model. The people who installed it told me I really needed to buy the extended warranty for the RCA DLP Scenium because the light engine was NOT very reliable and was real expensive to replace. Is the RCA DLP very reliable? I have owned mine for almost 4 months now and have had no problems with its performance but I am worried that I soon may have problems. |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 03:10 pm: |
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The light engine in your RCA DLP is manufactured by Infocus, the premier light engine manufacturer in the world for the most expensive front projectors made. That said the bulb will likely burnout within 3 or four years which is over $200 to replace and DLP technology is still quite new. This means the peace of mind you get from the insurance policy (that is essentially what the Ext Svc Agreement is) may be worth it to you.
I have never before purchased an extended warranty on a piece of electronic gear in my life, I purchased one for my RCA DLP, you be the judge.
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New member Username: Vod1
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| Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 04:05 pm: |
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I reluctantly got the ext. warranty because of what the installers told me. Guess that was the right thing to do. They also said the DLP light engine costs around $2,500 to replace. Do you know if they were correct about that? If so, you could almost get a brand new DLP HDTV for that price. Im still glad I got it. The picture is incredible for true HD shows. |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 05:41 pm: |
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Here is the cost to replace your entire TV at TV Authority http://www.tvauthority.com/orderform.asp?dept=42&prod=1272
It is only $2145.00 so I can't imagine the light engine alone would be $2500.
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New member Username: B0ngbong
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| Posted on Friday, December 03, 2004 - 01:21 pm: |
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I just have my hd converter installed from comcast.I notice that some of the hd and non hd channels specially local hd channels are not in full screen.Do guys have any idea why those channels are not in full screen. |
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| Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 06:06 pm: |
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I'm looking at getting the Phlips 42PF9956 - it has a native resolution of 1024x1024i and supports 480p and 1080i, but not 720p. Will I be missing out HD programming if I get a set without support for 720p? - Any advice on if I should get this will be very helpful.
thanks. |
xvxvxvx Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 02:53 pm: |
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Will I be missing out HD programming if I get a set without support for 720p?
I believe it will accept 720p as an input but not display in 720p therefore the display will scale anything other than it's native display rate.
It will accept 480p, 576i/p, 720p, 1080iand 1152i so you are in fine shape wherever you may be.
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 02:32 am: |
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I see what you are talking about. The specs do not indicate any support for 720p, which does seem strange since Fox (upcoming) and ABC are broadcasting that standard
If you are looking for a low cost true hi def plasma that will per the specs display all regular formats - look at SAMS CLUB web site. Walmart is bringing in the first wave of high quality Chinese made sets. Walmart future plans apparently call for a tidal wave of cheap but high quality hi def sets,usually via Chinese producers - to hit the market in the next yr or 2-soon in the regular stores i would guess
The model currently is the 42" Vizio Plasma HD-Ready TV with rock bottom pricing around 2400 and with ultra low cost extended warranties (assuming you want that). Way below BestBuy etc
Here are the specs
Panel: 42" Diagonal, 16:9 Aspect ratio
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels
Pixel(DOT)Pitch: HDTV (720P) Native
Signal Compatibility: 480i (SDTV), 480P (EDTV), 720P (HDTV), 1080i (HDTV)
Brightness: 1000 cd/m2 typical
Contrast: 3000:1 typical
Viewing Angle: >160 degrees (horizontal)/ >160 degrees (vertical)
Speakers: External 2x 15W
Voltage range: 100-240 Vac at 50/60 Hz
Power Consumption: 440W average |
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 08:29 am: |
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Beware of cheap plasma panels! I had a new LG ED panel for 1.5 weeks and returned it due to poor PQ even though in the store it was equal to Hitachi and Panasonic. On moving objects (even faces in close up)motion was blurred. As a monitor for PC it would have been OK but rapid movement (even changing facial expressions)gave blurry picture due to poor refresh rate or pixel response time and these are not listed parameters. The Good plasma screens are expensive for a reason and cost cutting seems to be at the expense of picture processing capability. |
Mikehansen Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 10:20 am: |
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I have a Hiachi 60" Projection hd ready tv. My cable box is a Pioneer BD-V3500HD. When I look at the "Guide" while watching a HD channel- the Picture goes out- all I see is blurred colors across the screen. Audio is fine. I have tried DVI, and component hook ups - happens both ways. Have to unplug & reboot box to get to clear. ANYONE ?? |
dpaquet Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 12:17 pm: |
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I bought a Sony KD-34XBR960 widscreen HDTV. Connected it to my cable (non-digital) and am now receiving digital channels like 100.12 - CBS, and all the music channels. If the TV screen shows the signal as being 1080i, am I receiving HDTV broadcast? Have ordered HDTV service from Comcast, but not sure if I need it and also, don't want to lose the digital channels I now am getting for free. Thanks. |
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