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New member Username: Kellogg1946
Callaway,
VA
USA
Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-08
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 05:12 pm: |
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Hi, Skater Bum I found the link to the Viper 5900 Installation Guide but I just realized that some of my questions probably will be answered in the Owners Guide. Do you have access to that link? I would greatly appreciate that information. The dual shock sensors were installed in the 2004 Mustang and the Ford anti-lock sampling couldn't be disabled without the green wires attached to the diodes being cut. Now the shock sensors basically don't function. There is still a problem with setting sensitivity. Sorry to be so wordy. |
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Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 291
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:34 pm: |
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Adriatik Muceku,
Maybe your system is in Valet Mode or your door pin isn't working properly.
Mary Kellogg,
Here is the link to the Owner's Guide for the Viper 5900:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/og/viper/G5301V_05-06post.pdf |
New member Username: Rastek
Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-08
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 10:20 pm: |
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Skater Bum, I have a Viper 500+ in my car which was working fine 3 months ago. The car has not been used for 3 months and the battery drained completely. When I tried jump starting the car, the alarm went off right away as soon as the cables were connected and would not respond to button 1 on the transmitter or the red wired VRS button. (In the past if I had to jump start the car I could always silence the alarm with button 1 on the Xmtr). In order to start the car I had to remove the 15A fuse in series with H1/11, (+) constant power input. The car starts and runs fine with the alarm fuse removed. With the engine running, if I insert the alarm fuse, the status LED flashes constantly and the alarm system does not respond to the Xmtr or the VRS switch. With the engine off and fuse in, the alarm triggers instantly and does not respond to the Xmtr, VRS or Valet buttons. This is with a door open or closed. I tried completely removing the alarm module and reconnecting it after a while to no avail. Any thoughts? Thanks.:. |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 292
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 12:41 am: |
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Beltone Jackson,
It sounds like your system is in what I call "static lockup." The only problem is you've already done what I would suggest you do to fix it.
The next step is to see if your VRS and Valet switches work. Test them for continuity with a DVM. If the Valet switch works, you should be able to put the system into Valet Mode and then reprogram your remote control. |
New member Username: Rastek
Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 12:50 am: |
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Thanks Skater Bum, I'll do some further troubleshooting and contact you again with an update.:. |
New member Username: Jesterbass21
Post Number: 3
Registered: Mar-08
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| Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 10:12 pm: |
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Skater bum it looks like your the guy to talk to about all this info. I have a Viper 160xv The manual is very vague about how to set it up. ie. how to make solid parking lights when the vehicle is started or even how to program an extra remote. do you have a manual that will explain these things? I already spent 35 dollars on the remote now they want a nother 35 to program it how I want it programmed. they will not explain to me how to do it myself. I will appreciate it greatly thank you. |
New member Username: Rastek
Post Number: 3
Registered: Mar-08
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| Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 11:31 pm: |
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Hi again Skater Bum. The Valet and VRS switches are OK. After reading the user manual I was able to disarm with the Valet button as well as enter Valet Mode, as indicated by a solid status LED.
The interesting thing about my particular 500+ is it does not have programming jumpers. It has a separate 2-pin programming input connected similar to the Valet and VRS switches. The Valet switch would not allow me to enter prog mode.
The programming input was un-connected so I connected a N.O. momentary pushbutton switch. I am now able to use this switch to enter programming mode but I still cannot enter Xmtr Learn mode. I press the prog sw once, then once again, then hold it. I hear a single chirp. I keep holding and press Xmtr button 1 but I don't hear another chirp. After a while I hear a short alarm burst which I assume is a rejection signal. When I test the Xmtr it does not function. It seems I am in feature programming and not the Xmtr Learn mode. I can press the prog sw several times and the siren will chirp the number of presses as if indicating one of the 11 features.
Another interesting thing about this 500+ is a single black wire exiting the case right above the main harness connector. It was not connected to anything and I have not tried connecting it.
My questions are, 1: Does the black wire need to be grounded or connected to 12v to enter Xmtr Learn mode? 2: Is there a different programming sequence for this model separate from the model with the programming jumpers. Finally, 3: Do you have a link to the installation manual for the non prog jumper model? My manual only discusses the unit with the prog jumpers and does not show or discuss the single black wire. Thanks.:. |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 293
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 01:04 am: |
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Richard Mcallister,
Here's a link to the installation guide for the 160xv:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N562V_07-05.pdf
Programming transmitters is on page 27 and features is on page 31. If you read the instructions you should be able to do the programming yourself without a problem.
Beltone Jackson,
Maybe you have the wrong remote control for the system or maybe the system doesn't work with an LCD remote control. The system maybe too old.
The black wire maybe the antenna and shouldn't be connected to anything.
I'm not sure what you mean by "programming jumpers." The only jumpers that are usually on Viper alarm systems are the tach threshold and parking light polarity select.
The only installation guide on DEI's site for a 500+ is this one:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N437V.pdf |
New member Username: Rastek
Post Number: 4
Registered: Mar-08
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| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 01:32 am: |
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Hi Skater Bum. The remote control I am attempting to Learn is the same one I have had since 1995. It worked fine up until 3 months ago when the car sat and the battery drained completely. Since then the remote will not control the alarm. It is not an LCD remote. It looks just like the remotes shown on page 2 of the manual you sent the link to. This is the same manual I already have. The remote has two buttons, no LCD screen.
Also, on page 2 of this manual, it shows a picture of the 500+ with an arrow pointing to a removable door for programming jumpers. On page 9 of this same manual it shows another picture of how to install the jumpers for either programming or Valet. Below the programming jumpers are jumpers for the light polarity select. The manual you sent the link to specifically refers to the jumpers as "progamming jumpers". My Viper 500+ does not have any of these jumpers (programming or light select), nor is there a removable door to access the jumpers. I removed the cover from the unit and there are no jumpers inside like the manual shows.
I guess I have a one of a kind that has no documentation??? |
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Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 294
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 02:49 pm: |
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Beltone Jackson,
Sorry about the LCD thing. I got you confused with someone else that I was helping.
As for the 500+, if the manual doesn't match what you have, then you might have an older version that DEI doesn't support anymore. Your best bet is to take it into a Viper installation center and have them check it out.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help. |
New member Username: Rastek
Post Number: 5
Registered: Mar-08
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| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 03:26 pm: |
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Hey Skater Bum, no problem. I can totally understand how easy it would be to get responses mixed up based on the number of questions you have to deal with.
I can't drive the car right now since it's a stick shift and I'm recovering from a broken left ankle. That's why the car was sitting so long. Now that I'm off crutches I've been trying to get the car running again.
Since I've been a tech my whole life and have nothing but time on my hands, I'll continue to work on the problem as I enjoy the technical challenge. Thanks to you, I am getting closer. I just need to figure out how to enter Xmtr Learn mode on this model.
If I can't figure it out in the next few days, once I can deal with pressing the clutch, I'll take it to a Viper dealer as you suggest.
Thanks for all your tips. Keep up the good work. You've been providing an excellent service.:. |
New member Username: Thekreamofthekrop
Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-08
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| Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 02:50 pm: |
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if any1 can help me out here... i have a viper 489v/p/x 2/66 codes and its been working perfectly but the battery died. ive changed the battery 3 other times and it still works perfectly fine, but this time i put a new battery in and it wont stop vibrating... the alarm still works, my windows and my poppers still works everythign works fine but it wont stop vibrating, and ive never even seen it vibrate before. if anyone can help me out id really appreciate it, thanks |
New member Username: Kegan
Miami,
Fl
Usa
Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 10:57 pm: |
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I have a 700esp connected to a 515e siren. I need the wiring diagram to connect the two together. Thank you. |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 296
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 11:46 pm: |
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Warren Ford,
Here's a link to the installation guide for the Viper 700ESP:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N379V.pdf
And here's a link to the installation guide for the 515ESP:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/accessories/2515211_515ESP_Installatio n_Guide.pdf |
New member Username: Mgn
Wellington,
Kansas
Us
Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 08:48 pm: |
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skater Bum I was working under the dash on my 1990 chev truck working on putting a stereo in the dash and when I was done my python 571xp car starter will not start with the key but will start with the remote do you have the wire guide for python 571xp |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 297
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 06:35 pm: |
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mike norman,
Here's a link to the installation guide for the Python 571XP:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/python/N572P_07-05.pdf |
New member Username: Mgn
Wellington,
Kansas
Us
Post Number: 2
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 09:06 am: |
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Skater Bum I read the trouble shooting guide and went right out ot my truck looked under the steering wheel removed the cover plate and and checked the wires there someone just striped back the wires on the truck then tried to rap the remote wires around the truck wires I found some loose wires so bumted them around and sure enought I even have door lock working right now so I am going to solder these wire before I put it back toghter thanks alot for your help Mike. |
New member Username: Jmares
Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 11:55 pm: |
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Skater Bum or anyone that can help , i need you help. My car came with a viper 791xv alarm, but no remote with it. the alarm went off on me yesterday, and now my car wont start, why is that, and what can i do? i already unhooked the whole alarm , and press the little black button an nothing happens, there is life in the battery, the alarm just keeps cutting the battery off, please help me , any help would be greatly appreciated, tank you |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 298
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 12:10 am: |
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Jorge Mares,
The reason the car won't start is because with the alarm going off, the starter kill is engaged. If you completely unhook the system, the car should start fine. |
New member Username: Jmares
Post Number: 2
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 12:14 am: |
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thanks Skater Bum, i tried unhooking the system and nothing happens, could i have done something else wrong? |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 299
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 01:05 am: |
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Jorge Mares,
Depending on how the installer did the starter kill, you may have to reconnect your starter wire at the steering column. |
New member Username: Greek_wizard
Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 07:23 pm: |
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I just want to say thank you to Skater Bum for helping people with Viper alarms. I found this thread from Google when trying to program a 474V remote to work with my 5550ESP. I had made it all the way to 7 flashes when I gave up and found your post here:
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/4/251030.html
I now have the remote working (Thank you), and I have downloaded the install manual (further up this thread), but I noticed now that my LED is a solid color when the ignition is off. It also no longer flashes when the alarm is set. When i start the car or move the key to ON, the light turns off.
What did I screw up?
Is it possibly I entered the tach setup accidently? (Start, Press/hold, stays solid)
If yes, how do I correct?
Thanks in advance. |
New member Username: Greek_wizard
Post Number: 2
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 07:27 pm: |
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I should have added that for a while the siren does a real low "whining" when the car is started with my remote. Once I put the key in and press the brake it goes away.
Periodically I try to start the vehicle and the starter does not engage. Just clicks and does nothing. Then on the second or third attempt it will engae. Every now and then it will not engage even after the third try.
I would say that it is roughly 10% that it does not engage on the first try and very rare that it goes through all 3 attepmts without starting.
Thanks again. |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 300
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 12:37 am: |
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Greek Wizard,
Your LED being on solid means that your system is in Valet Mode. Valet Mode disables your alarm system and just leaves you with keyless entry. Here's a link to the Owner's Manual for the 550ESP:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/og/viper/553V.pdf
On page 14 of the manual (page 17 of the pdf file) it will walk you through how to take the unit out of Valet Mode.
As for the "real low whining" when the car is started by remote, I would check the ground on the system first and then check the power wires. It sounds like you don't have all of your ignition wires powered up during remote start. |
New member Username: Aabreu
Coatzacoalcos,
Veracruz
Mexico
Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 01:36 am: |
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Hola Skater
Do you have the installation guide for the Viper 5900?
Thanks |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 301
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 09:45 pm: |
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alex abreu,
Here's the installation guide for the Viper 5900:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N5301V_05-06post.pdf |
New member Username: Aabreu
Coatzacoalcos,
Veracruz
Mexico
Post Number: 2
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 07:27 pm: |
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Skater tanks by information
Do you have the installation guide (diagram) for the transponder bypasskit 556SW by Ford F150 2008.
I have viper 5900 and transponder 556SW, but I cannot install transponder 556SW.
thanks. |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 303
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 09:39 pm: |
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alex abreu,
Here's a link to the installation guide for the 556SW:
http://www.bypasskit.com/getdocument.aspx?documentid=736 |
New member Username: Casanosa11
Post Number: 5
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 06:53 pm: |
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PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS!
I have the Viper system with remote start and the 4 button remote.
Now this has happened a few times, but usually starts working again when I pull the fuse and put it back in. For no reason the remote stops working. It functions properly but does not register to the system. It beeps as if it were out of range. This time nothings working and as soon as I put the put in, the alarms goes off and there is no way to shut it off. I tried the program steps and nothing happens, the alarm keeps sounding.
I dont understand. It started just like the other times (its happened twice). I parked the car. Hit the aux and start (orange) and the same time (its the turbo timer feature, runs for 60sec), got out and hit arm, and it everything like it should. As I was walking out of Office Depot I hit disarm/unlock and it does the out of range beep. Since then it will not register the remote.
Please help me out... thanks
Chris |
New member Username: Casanosa11
Post Number: 6
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 11:38 am: |
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anyone?? |
New member Username: Cooperman_sk8erpunx
Post Number: 6
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 04:50 pm: |
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i see that viper/dei do recomended install points for the car you are installing in.
skater bum could you do me a massive favor again and see if they do one for a toyota celica year 1990-1993.
just got around to fitting my viper 480xv and have found that its easy enough but would like some pointers on were to get a possitive from.
any sort of info on the best place to pick up the fuel pump cut off.
if you could help it would be really great.
thanks again for your help.
andy |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 310
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 07:43 pm: |
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andrew cooper,
What information are you looking for? |
New member Username: Cooperman_sk8erpunx
Post Number: 7
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 12:20 pm: |
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i have the viper 480xv and they do the recommended places to attatch wires to.
i think they tell you what color the wires are as well in the car but cant remember.
so im looking for the fuel pump cut in place.
perminate live feed place. starter coil cut in place.
and if they recommend to put the door lock wires in by the kick pannel or in the doors.
think thats it really.
i can work them out just wanted to see if my ideas were sound or if they say its better to stick them else were.
thanks again
andy |
New member Username: Casanosa11
Post Number: 7
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 08:11 pm: |
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Skaterbum can you help me out?? any ideas?? |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 312
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 11:03 pm: |
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Chris Semprin,
Have you tried to reprogram the remote to the system? |
New member Username: Casanosa11
Post Number: 8
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 03:35 pm: |
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SkaterBum
Yeah, Ive tried that a couple times, but as soon as I put the fuse back in, the alarm goes off. Ive also tried to get it into valet mode according to the manual but it keep setting itself off. |
New member Username: Casanosa11
Post Number: 9
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 05:43 pm: |
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I guess I must have a real problem here... |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 315
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 08:15 pm: |
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Chris Semprin,
I would take it back to the place that you had install it and have them check it out. |
New member Username: Krog
Post Number: 2
Registered: Jun-08
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| Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 10:49 pm: |
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Hi Skater Bum
I'm hoping you can help me. I have a viper 771xv system that I bought from Best Buy 3 years ago. The remote died and I have been trying program a new replacement remote but can't get the thing to work. I open the door, turn the key to ON, push the valet button 8 times then hold it on the ninth and... I get no response at all. I've tried all kinds of different sequences and get nothing. I know the valet switch works as I can get in and out of valet mode with no problems. I'm wondering if Best Buy did something so I could not program my own new remote?
Help! 
Thank you
btw, can you or anyone else confirm that a 474v remote will work with a 771xv system? I know it's not the same as the original but I have heard from others that it works just fine. |
New member Username: 96vti
Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 01:41 pm: |
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Skater Bum,
I have a 96 Honda Civic with Viper alarm. I used it without any problem for many years, but nowadays
the alarm often triggers for no reason. After disarming the LED flashes 3 times.
Sometimes it works normally for a week, sometimes it makes 3 false alarms a day.
Sometimes I cannot arm the system. It sounds continuous beeping, however all doors, hood, trunk closed. 1 minute later the arming is successful.
Unfortunately I have no owner's guide, so I don't know what the 3 LED flashes mean.
To search for the owner's guide I should know the model number of the alarm, but there is no model/serial marked
neither on the control unit nor on the remote.
So, any ideas what this is? The control unit and the siren assembled in one box, I've never seen an alarm like this.
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=715tec&s=3
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dow6fp&s=3
If you can give me the model number of the alarm, a link for the owner's/installation guide or throubleshooting tips, that would be really appreciated... |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 318
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 12:41 am: |
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FG,
Yes, the 474V remote will work with the 771xv system. As for programming, are you trying to program each button separately or do you just want to learn the standard configuration automatically? Here's a link to the installation guide for the 771xv:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N567V_07-05.pdf
The programming information is on pages 36 and 37.
Marshall,
As for the one-piece Viper alarm, without a model number there's not much that I can do. You could check to see if the hood pin is corroding which would result in falsing during and after rain storms. Another thing that I would check is the ground of the unit. Make sure that it is not corroded as well. When alarms lose their ground, weird things happen. Three LED flashes on a Viper usually indicates the door trigger. You may also want to check those for corrosion as well. |
New member Username: Eso111960
Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-08
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| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 01:43 pm: |
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Help!
I have a Viper 300+ and never had any problems. Now the siren no longer works. It didnt take any damage or water, etc.
Seems everything else works alright; the flashers blink and the LED blinks when it ought to but no siren. When I try to enter learning mode to program it, you dont hear the siren chirp then either when pressing/holding the valet button. All the wires look properly connected and I cant tell but looks like all fuses are intact, and everything else on the vehicle works properly. Its not in valet mode; the LED is not on constantly.
It has a two button remote. 99 Dodge Caravan.
Anyone have any ideas? The shop who installed it wants as much just to look at it as it costs for a new one! 
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 321
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 10:32 pm: |
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If you are sure that everything else works fine and is wired correctly, I would try to replace the siren first. It may just be defective. |
New member Username: Jeckal
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| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 09:53 am: |
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Skater Bum - Looks like you might be able to help me. I have a major problem !! I have a viper 5000 alarm system installed on a golf VR6 .after installing it has been running perfectly for about 3 months but yesterday after driving it was left for an hour and now it wont start.its like it is in auto engine disable mode and i cant get it to start! bat is fine ?? can you help ? Thanks James |
New member Username: Jeckal
Post Number: 2
Registered: Jul-08
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| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 09:57 am: |
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extension of my question - sorry didn't really leave many details - the car just makes a click sound when i turn the key - alarm still works and after trying to re program it goes off. i have tryed everything i can think of - is there a way to bypass the alarm system just to start the engine ?? Thanks |
Silver Member Username: Skater_bum
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
USA
Post Number: 323
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 11:32 am: |
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James Harford,
Two things may have happened. You may have engaged the VRS feature of the system, or your transponder bypass may have shifted.
To disable the VRS, refer to your owner's manual. Here's a link to it:
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/og/viper/G3301V_02-05.pdf
The information is on pages 50-53.
If you still can't get it to work, you can short the green/white wire of the system to the green or green/black wire which will restore your starter wire.
If your transponder antenna has shifted, you should be able to unplug it from its module and start the car normally. If the module is defective and is engaged all of the time the car is seeing two transponders and does not allow the car start. By unplugging the antenna of the bypass module, the car should only see the transponder in the key and allow the car to start. If this is the case, return to the place that installed the unit and have them reposition the antenna on the bypass unit. |
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